Lance Foxx talks with Art Bell and Father Malachi Martin.

THE FOLLOWING IS A TRANSCRIPT OF A TALK RADIO SHOW, "COAST TO COAST AM," HOSTED BY ART BELL. ON THE NIGHT OF JULY 11, 1997, WHILE TALKING TO FATHER MALACHI MARTIN BY PHONE, ART DECIDED TO OPEN UP THE PHONE LINES AND LET HIS LISTENERS ASK HIS GUEST SOME QUESTIONS. I WAS ONE OF THE FEW LUCKY PEOPLE THAT GOT THROUGH ON THAT PARTICULAR NIGHT. HERE IS A TRANSCRIPT OF HOW THE CONVERSION WENT. NOTE: I taped this on my radio as I was on the air. Unfortunetly, the tape wasn't of the highest quality and a few seconds of the dialogue was lost.

Art Bell: "East of the Rockies, you're on the air with Father Malachi Martin. Hi."

Lance Foxx: "Hey! Good morning, Art."

Art Bell: "Good moring, Sir. Where are you?"

Lance Foxx: "This is Lance, a fifth time caller from Park Hills, Missouri."

Art Bell: "All right." Father Malachi Martin: "Um-hum."

Lance Foxx: "I'd like to ask your quest- your guest a question."

Father Malachi Martin: "Sure."

Lance Foxx: "Is it possible for a person to be a lycanthrope and not be evil?" (long pause)

Father Malachi Martin: "Um..." (an even longer pause)

Father Malachi Martin: "Yes. It is possible. Within the framework of your question, I must say, yes. It is possible. It is possible."

Lance Foxx: "In other words, can lycanthropy be kind of a gift?"

Father Malachi Martin: "Yes. It can be. Like everything else, it can have a good purpose or an evil purpose."

Art Bell: "Father, would you get a little bit away from the phone for me?"

Father Malachi Martin: "Sorry! I'm sorry! It's hard for me."

Art Bell: "That's all right. I know-" (laughs)

Father Malachi Martin: "I haven't spoken [to] a man with this outlook for quite a while and I got excited."

Art Bell: "Well, let me understand because I don't understand what he just said. So,..."

Father Malachi Martin: "Sir, would you explain lycanthropy to Art?"

Lance Foxx: "Well, uh, lycanthropy, the definition on most dictionaries, is the delusion a person suffers that they believe they are either a wolf or a werewolf."

Father Malachi Martin: "Um-hum."

Art Bell: "A-Ha! That's you?"

Lance Foxx: "Uh...uh, not by that definition."

Father Malachi Martin: "No. That's not you."

Lance Foxx: "Uh, let's see... I don't know how to put it in my terms. Uh..."

Art Bell: "Well, do the best you can-"

Lance Foxx: "All right-"

Art Bell: "Tell us what you are or what you feel."

Lance Foxx: "Well, it's mostly in dreams. I don't, I don't believe, uh, I don't believe in werewolves in, like, the real world or anything."

Art Bell: "Yes..."

Lance Foxx: "But, I've had lycanthropy in my dreams... And..." (starting to feel discourgaed) "Well, that was just a question I came up with while I was listening to your show."

Art Bell: "I'm glad you did! Um-"

Father Malachi Martin: "It's... It's not neccessarily evil, but it's...it's, uh... it would be interesting to... to find out why you have those lycanthropic dreams. It really would."

Art Bell: "Do you want to know, Caller?"

Lance Foxx: "Uh, yes! If- if he could answer that."

Art Bell: "How does he- How does he find out, Father?"

Father Malachi Martin: "Uh,... he must pray... and-" (two seconds of narration lost... due to the cheap quality of the tape I record this on.)

Father Malachi Martin: "-but... it- it can be generational in the sense that it can come from fractors, which he inherits with his flesh and bones. Uh..."

Art Bell: "Wow."

Father Malachi Martin: "Accompanning that is, uh, an ancestral influence and that's something which I can't, at- at this distance I can't, uh, perform. You know."

Lance Foxx: "Okay, this- just to make something clear, I don't dream of ripping people's throats out or anything." Lance Foxx: "I know you don't!" (laughing) "I know you don't!"

Lance Foxx: "It's, uh, mainly, uh, being a wolf with other wolves out in the wilderness type dreams."

Father Malachi Martin: "That's right."

Lance Foxx: "Uh, sometimes, if I do take that half state form... uh, those dreams- it seems like, uh, instead of killing people, I'm saving people's lives, like I've had a lot of dreams recently of saving people from fires." (Art Bell allows me to make this last statement and then dis-connects me. I am no longer on the air, but Father Malachi Martin continues...)

Father Malachi Martin: "Well, that's the good- that's the good version of it, which you share. That's why I say-" (another second or two lost...)

Father Malachi Martin: "-evil. Um, but I'd want to know much more about you, Sir. That-"

Art Bell: "So, you don't- you don't hear a lot of- of this sort of thing, then Father?"

Father Malachi Martin: "No. There's a certain quantum... I've come across this... in- in a certain amount of people it's a- it's a minority as far as I'm- my experience goes. 'Course, I've heard about it and talked with them, but I've always had to inquire about their family..."

Art Bell: "Um-hum."

Father Malachi Martin: "... as there is a generational aspect to this,..."

Art Bell: "Wow."

Father Malachi Martin: "...which must be thought out. Uh, especially if it has a negative effect. When it has a positive effect, as in this man's- as this man just said, then I still would inquire about it. I'd be very curious. It's a rare... um, trait."

Art Bell: "Boy, I'm learning a lot tonight!" (this ends the conversation as Art Bell takes the next caller)

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