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Contributed by James Vandale
WITNESSES CLAIM THEY SAW ALIENS AT U.S. BASES
By Elaine Douglass
The U.S. government has a close working relationship with
alien beings, three unnamed witnesses told a California
radio station in a program aired in June.
The four-hour program, produced and broadcast by KPFA-FM
in Berkeley, Calif., ranged widely over the UFO topic, but
the most explosive segments were the testimony of a
construction contractor who said he saw aliens at Edwards
Air Force Base and at the China Lake Naval Weapons facility
in California; the testimony of a man who described
"saucers" being launched from a Northrop facility near
Edwards; and a woman's second-hand account of a meeting
between aliens and U.S. military officers.
Moreover, it now appears that KPFA's voice in the
UFO area has been silenced. Although in June the program
producer Ralph Steiner promised additional coverage of the
UFO issue in future broadcasts, inquires from the Forum were
met with this blunt message from Mr. Steiner: "Do not re-
broadcast the tape. Persons whose testimony is on the tape
have been threatened and their lives are in danger."
Subsequent inquiries from The Forum to Mr. Steiner have gone
The Forum has obtained a tape of the KPFA broadcast. What
follows is a summary and excerpts from witness No. 1.
According to the KPFA broadcast, the interviews were
conducted in April 1991 in communities surrounding Edwards
Air Force Base in the Antelope Valley of Southern
California. Witness No. 1 described himself as a Vietnam
veteran, former Green Beret, military medal-holder, and a
licensed general contractor who has worked on construction
projects at Chuna Lake and at Nellis, Scott, Edwards, and
Andrews Air Force Bases. The projects, the witness said,
were "mostly underground."
* Underground Structures, Alien Beings
Each of these facilities has extensive underground
installations, and they are "definitely not normal
military structures," the witness said. He described
4-foot thick concrete walls and electronically-controlled
"In one building I worked on at Edwards, called Haystack
Buttes, it took us over 5 minutes to get from the top to the
bottom by elevator," the witness said. "We estimated it was
30 stories deep." It was here that the witness first saw an
alien. "We were walking down a hall," the witness said,
"and these doors opened and there was a very particular
person or things that caught my eye for an instant. This man
was over seven feet tall. I'd say between 8 and 9 to 10
feet, wearing a lab jacket and talking to two [human]
"This man's arms were almost down to his knees! It threw
me into shock," the witness said. "And then the doors
closed. Security saw us and told us to get out of there.
Next day I walked off the job," the witness said.
Asked if the being he saw was a human, the witness
replied, "Definitely not. He had big slanted eyes. A big
head. Fingers were extremely long. Greenish skin." The
witness said he saw the being for "just a couple of seconds.
Three-quarters of its face is what I saw and I said, this
guy would make a hell of a basketball player!"
* One Witness Scared, the Other Dead
The witness said his co-worker " 'bout died" when he too saw
the being. The witness compared the height of the being to
the height of the humans standing next to it. He said he
knew one of the humans, whose height he estimated at 6 feet
Witness No. 1 described a second encounter with aliens. He
said he and co-workers saw "greys" at the China Lake naval
"They [security] thought we had left--me and two other
guys. But we decided to stay over and finish this job. We
walked past a hangar and we could see through a window," the
"One of the guys I was with, Paul, he saw them first. He
said, 'Come here! Hurry up! I want to show you something!'
And we looked in the window and there's these four little
grey guys about 3 feet tall.
"Right then, security saw us and they told us, 'We
thought you guys left.' And they escorted us and said,
'You're not allowed around this hangar. This hangar is off-
limits to everybody. You'll get yourself shot.'
"And it messed with Paul's mind so much that every chance
he got he snuck over there. He finally got caught and was
kicked off the base. About three months later they found him
mysteriously dead in Orange County. This kind of put a scare
in me. I know why not to mess with something," the witness
"After that I said, Ain't nobody pulling the blanket over
my head any more. l know what's going on now. l know what I
saw at Edwards is real. Somebody's playing games with us,"
the witness said.
It should be noted that KPFA is one of five "Pacifica"
stations, the first of which was founded in the late 1940s.
The Pacifica stations, in New York, Berkeley, Los Angeles,
Fresno, and Washington, D.C., are alternative, non-
commercial and listener-sponsored, with a long tradition of
political activism and precedent-making First Amendment
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